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	<title>Comments on: Titan&#8217;s Underground Water Lends Support to Creationist Walt Brown</title>
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		<title>By: lordkalvan</title>
		<link>http://truthmatters.info/2008/03/21/titans-underground-water-lends-support-to-walt-brown/#comment-1488</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see you are pursuing the same claims in regard to Titan at IIDB. Your arguments are meeting with no more success there than they did at Rants &#039;n Raves. Interested readers can follow the debate at:

http://iidb.infidels.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=239701]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you are pursuing the same claims in regard to Titan at IIDB. Your arguments are meeting with no more success there than they did at Rants &#8216;n Raves. Interested readers can follow the debate at:</p>
<p><a href="http://iidb.infidels.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=239701" rel="nofollow">http://iidb.infidels.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=239701</a></p>
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		<title>By: lordkalvan</title>
		<link>http://truthmatters.info/2008/03/21/titans-underground-water-lends-support-to-walt-brown/#comment-1477</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the numerous differences between Earth and Titan that you have had pointed out to you in the debate linked to above and that make the comparison between the two bodies irrelevant in contriving some sort of support for Brown&#039;s hydroplate theory, you persist in making this unwarranted claim. Just some of the points you have been pointed towards that undermine your argument include:

Titan has a mass a fraction that of Earth&#039;s, yet you claimed that Titan was &#039;not much smaller than&#039; Earth. Enceladus is even tinier. How does this make for a relevant comparison amongst the three bodies?

A postulated &#039;underground ocean&#039; 62 miles below the surface of Titan bears no similarity to Brown&#039;s Fountains of the Deep 10 miles below the surface of Earth. You have been shown the physics that make Brown&#039;s idea an absurdity.

The density of Titan is less than a third that of Earth&#039;s and less than twice that of ice. That the surface of Titan &#039;floats&#039; on an &#039;underground ocean&#039; again provides no evidence, speculative or otherwise, that Brown&#039;s Fountains of the Deep ever existed on Earth. The example of Titan is no more than a red herring in this instance.

It is a straightforward observation that there is evidence for Titan&#039;s &#039;underground ocean&#039;. It is an equally straightforward observation that there is no evidence for the Fountains of the Deep on Earth. Geologists have not ignored or misunderstood this confirming evidence; the bitter truth is that they have come across none.

The additional material you have posted here in no way enhances your argument nor undermines those who have pointed out the weaknesses in your initial premise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the numerous differences between Earth and Titan that you have had pointed out to you in the debate linked to above and that make the comparison between the two bodies irrelevant in contriving some sort of support for Brown&#8217;s hydroplate theory, you persist in making this unwarranted claim. Just some of the points you have been pointed towards that undermine your argument include:</p>
<p>Titan has a mass a fraction that of Earth&#8217;s, yet you claimed that Titan was &#8216;not much smaller than&#8217; Earth. Enceladus is even tinier. How does this make for a relevant comparison amongst the three bodies?</p>
<p>A postulated &#8216;underground ocean&#8217; 62 miles below the surface of Titan bears no similarity to Brown&#8217;s Fountains of the Deep 10 miles below the surface of Earth. You have been shown the physics that make Brown&#8217;s idea an absurdity.</p>
<p>The density of Titan is less than a third that of Earth&#8217;s and less than twice that of ice. That the surface of Titan &#8216;floats&#8217; on an &#8216;underground ocean&#8217; again provides no evidence, speculative or otherwise, that Brown&#8217;s Fountains of the Deep ever existed on Earth. The example of Titan is no more than a red herring in this instance.</p>
<p>It is a straightforward observation that there is evidence for Titan&#8217;s &#8216;underground ocean&#8217;. It is an equally straightforward observation that there is no evidence for the Fountains of the Deep on Earth. Geologists have not ignored or misunderstood this confirming evidence; the bitter truth is that they have come across none.</p>
<p>The additional material you have posted here in no way enhances your argument nor undermines those who have pointed out the weaknesses in your initial premise.</p>
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		<title>By: lordkalvan</title>
		<link>http://truthmatters.info/2008/03/21/titans-underground-water-lends-support-to-walt-brown/#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lordkalvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a verbatim copy of the OP of a thread you have started at Rants &#039;n Raves. I could reiterate the counterpoints that have been made there to show how the evidence from Titan can in no way be used to support Brown&#039;s hydroplate ideas in respect of Earth, but it would probably be easier if interested readers just followed the link below and read them for themselves:

http://www.rantsnraves.org/showthread.php?t=8873]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a verbatim copy of the OP of a thread you have started at Rants &#8216;n Raves. I could reiterate the counterpoints that have been made there to show how the evidence from Titan can in no way be used to support Brown&#8217;s hydroplate ideas in respect of Earth, but it would probably be easier if interested readers just followed the link below and read them for themselves:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rantsnraves.org/showthread.php?t=8873" rel="nofollow">http://www.rantsnraves.org/showthread.php?t=8873</a></p>
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